Tiltware Fires Back at Phil Ivey
Just one day after Phil Ivey announced he was suing Tiltware and skipping the 2011 WSOP, Tiltware has apparently responded.
A statement was released to media outlets through Full Tilt Poker PR Rep Michele Clayborne.
What follows is the entirety of the email:
Subject: TILTWARE’S RESPONSE TO THE PHIL IVEY LAWSUIT
“Contrary to his sanctimonious public statements, Phil Ivey’s meritless lawsuit is about helping just one player – himself. In an effort to further enrich himself at the expense of others, Mr. Ivey appears to have timed his lawsuit to thwart pending deals with several parties that would put money back in players’ pockets. In fact, Mr. Ivey has been invited -- and has declined -- to take actions that could assist the company in these efforts, including paying back a large sum of money he owes the site. Tiltware doubts Mr. Ivey’s frivolous and self-serving lawsuit will ever get to court. But if it does, the company looks forward to presenting facts demonstrating that Mr. Ivey is putting his own narrow financial interests ahead of the players he professes to help.”
Meanwhile Phil Ivey’s lawsuit was filed today in a Nevada Clark County District Court. The suit seeks damages in excess of $150 million. Ivey alleges in the suit that he had no knowledge of the company violating any U.S. laws.
You can read the complete lawsuit here.
Ivey will be represented by Chesnoff and Schonfeld in his case. David Chesnoff is one of the top criminal defense attorneys in the United States and has previously represented poker players such as Johnny Chan and Doyle Brunson, as well as celebrities like Lindsay Lohan, Mike Tyson and the recently retired Shaquille O’Neal.
The majority of Full Tilt Pros have remained silent on the issue although Tom “durrrr” Dwan did mention via Twitter that he thought Ivey’s statement was “awesome.” He did reiterate he had no problems playing the WSOP, however.
“I'll be playing wsop. Feel fine about that morally b/c I've already said I'll give back 100% I ws paid by ftp if players aren't paid in full.”
It is nice to see someone act in a principled manner. My hat is off to Phil Ivey. He is a good man, doing the right thing. Happy New Year
phil ivey is all about phil ivey--funny he sues full tilt to get players cash back but he does not repay the 6.5 million back that full tilt loaned him. 6.5 million is a lot of money and the the lawsuit will prevent him from having to pay back because it was illeagal for full tilt to operate in the u.s. also phil had a 5 million dollar bet with howard lederer in whitch he had 2 years to win 2 world series bracelets. if ivey did not win a bracelet this year he would owe 5 million. a great reason not to play. he is your typical p.o.s.
It is a sad day indeed, The fact is if full tilt didn't cheat with its software and its players deposits they would have a multi billion dollar trademark that would soon be licensed. there shortsightedness has killed there site world wide the name fulltilt stands for CHEATING HORSE THIEVES!!!
I actually deposited 1000$ at a site and have a spreadsheet of 10's of thousands of hands that all have a pattern .those patterns seem to change when updates are installed,but its just a different pattern,which is oddly 100% correct .i would not call that poker.id call it robbery
The PR rep. that made the statement sounds like a child, amazing that a business could allow such an unprofessional statement to be made in response to a lawsuit. Seems to me being that unprofessional in a statement means they really are crooked!....probably invested all there money in real estate before the bubble burst and are now screwed id really like to see a balance sheet that shows what happened to 150 million dollars which they had no right to spend. Alas the players of america may very well be screwed......i guess I can kiss my measly $64 goodbye...and all the unfortunate good players can kiss goodbye the 100's of thousands they had.
I agree with Andrew UK. I also trust Phil Ivey a hell of a lot more than tiltware. He has a track record of being honest and fair in his dealings. Hell, it was his reputation that made him so valuable to full tilt in the first place. All I know is that Phil Ivey does not owe me any money, full tilt does. I believe that Phil Ivey tried until the last minute to work out a deal to get players paid and then had to release a statement on opening day that he would not play in the tournament that he loves because he felt it unfair to play when others could not. It fits better with what I have seen over the years from him. I do not believe the statements from that pr girl at tiltware.
LOOK HERE EVERYONE. TILTWARE ARE ALL A BUNCH OF LYING MARKS. IF YOU HAVENT NOTICED LIKE I HAVE WHILE PLAYING ONLINE; IT'S CLEAR THE EVERYHAND IS FRABRICATED TO WHERE IT ALL EVENS OUT TO FULLTILT,POKERSTARS ECT ALL GET PAID 80 TO 90 PERCENT OF ALL OF OUR MONEY!!!. "F"THEM.
We certainly will never know the behind the scenes considerations, but there are some certainties:
1. Ivey's obligation to FTP, if there is any, has no impact on FTP's unwillingness to pay its players. Even without U.S. permission, FTP and Stars could pay U.S. players by issuing checks from a foreign bank that could be deposited in U.S. banks.
2. Ferguson, Lederer and Phil Gordon have gone into a hidey-hole for good reason. They have big bank balances outside of the U.S. and they can call the shots when it comes to utilizing whatever assets FTP has to get U.S. players paid. These 2 characters have been behind the FTP experience since the beginning and are now probably contemplating life outside of the U.S. now that they have escaped the wrath of the DOJ. Too bad that they are morally bankrupt and such stupid business people to lose a business that would have had a market cap of 10 billion + if they had behaved and been a player when the U.S. does license. If you want to be angry with anybody about not having your money, don't misdirect your anger at Ivey. The anger should be channeled towards Bitar, Lederer, Ferguson, Phil Gordon and the others who created this mess and are now trying to figure out how to both stay out of jail and keep the many millions that they have made over the past 6 years.
No matter the standpoints either side has taken the following seems self evident.
1. Full Tilt have not given back a cent to US players whilst Poker Starts I believe have or are in the process of giving back all monies owed.
2. If Full Tilt gave Ivey money thats their problem, if he cant meet is contractual obligations for receipt of said payment then Full Tilt should have thought about this before the Feds busted them.
3. Doyle Brunson says Phil Ivety was the only Poker Player to phone up and tell him he owed Chip Reese money when he passed away and asked where he could send payment to. I think this shows Mr Ivey in a good light and that he has a moral compass and is an honest man.
4. Hope all US players up sticks and leave the land of the free and the brave as it loooks more and more like Nazi Germany every day. Come and live in England you can find 4 legal bookmakers in every town and bet on sport all over the world in person or on line and my god you can use the internet to play that Most Vile of Crimes POKER!
Tiltware should check themselves....instead of attacking Phil Ivey's lawsuit, Tiltware should focus on paying people their deposits back & plan on how they are going to spend a good portion of their lives in US Federal Prison.