Antonius Says $5 Million at Risk in Full Tilt Chaos
Patrik Antonius, poker icon and former member of Team Full Tilt, says that he’ll be one of the biggest losers if Full Tilt Poker goes bankrupt despite recent rumors in the poker media.
"This one person made an attack on me, saying I had only $100 in my account. He was right but he’s not right that I’m not a very big loser in this," Antonius told PokerListings.com in Cannes on Day 4 of the WSOPE Main Event.
"I'm also concerned how this person got the account balance and why he’s spreading around confidential information,” said Antonius.
While Antonius confirmed his own account contains just $100, he said that there are a few key reasons he stands to lose millions should Full Tilt Poker go under.
The majority of his potential losses have to do with money being frozen on the site, but it also has to do with money he’s owed by other poker players.
“A lot of people owe me a lot of money and if Full Tilt goes down completely it’s going to be very difficult for them to pay,” he said.
Antonius puts the number he’s owed at more than $5 million.
He says one individual in particular owes him $2.4 million and that player’s ability to pay him back rests entirely on Full Tilt Poker continuing to do business.
Included in the huge sum he’s owed is roughly $500,000 in online poker funds that Antonius transferred out of his account player-to-player before heading to the WSOP in Las Vegas, where he knew he’d be unable to access his online account.
“Full Tilt would not let me cash out after Black Friday,” he said.
“My manager and I were trying to contact them about why I wasn’t getting cashed out and they just kept telling us there were problems.
“So because I was going to be in the USA for the World Series of Poker I transferred what I had to people that wanted the online money, then the entire site went down and noone could get their money off.
“So the people I transferred the FTP money to are refusing to pay me because it’s stuck on the site and they don’t see it as real money,” he said.
While there were confirmed cashouts for non-US players after Black Friday, most reported serious problems with the withdrawal process and many never received their funds.
That makes it likely Antonius wasn’t being singled out by FTP but rather the company was simply unable to process withdrawals on the scale he was requesting.
To make matters worse, his debts aren’t the only way Antonius stands to lose out if Full Tilt goes broke.
“I get paid a big part of my compensation from Full Tilt at the end of each contractual year in June and this year it was not paid out.
"The same goes for the compensation from the few months before.” said Antonius.
It's the little people who get fucked not the slick corrupted people who run and headchief anything. Its been like this around the century's. PA is most likely lying or if he dosen't he has enough money to continue leaving healthy life. While for some this might ruined their financial life.
Good game morons, I hope you all rot in hell.
but blame Wallstreet, Illuminati and the evil snake house. Not Fulltiltpoker (unless its a inside scam)
Dont blame middle function. Go into the top if you wanna see whos guilty. But its enough if you look into mirror because its the us the little men who let us fucked DAY AFTER DAY. Little man has to become a Warrior to understand where he lives in, study hard.
Morrman... exactly! Your welcome at my local comedy club any day...hehe
There are certain pros and cons playing on different poker sites - unfortunately Fulltilt had the pros and it also has the Cons ! - British humour ...get it? :)
It seems that certain players are trying to keep their credibility in light of the biggest poker heist in history. Its innevitable that many will become villains no matter what their connection with FT truly was. Who cares about their backsides and their poker future all that matters is that the funds are repaid in full to all the poker players along with compensation (perhaps thats going way too far) and the likes of lederer and ferguson and cronnies are never heard of on the poker scene again. PA is another who is now getting too much airtime for the wrong reasons, who gives a shite about his side bets that this degenerate has got going. This is nothing to do with the decent poker players who had dreams of grinding a roll. This is about the vast majority who have lost and not the few millionaires who were heavily involved and should take responsibility in some form.
ahhhh.. so PA is basically trying to make everyone feel better in the knowledge that hes loosing millions. I think many who lost their rolls on FT are worse off than him, albeit a smaller amount but still nevertheless a significant impact on their lives. Im sure hes still got a poker income from various sources and can afford to pop along to his local casino and play in poker tournies around the globe, unlike the ones who needed their FT bankrolls to do so. PA my heart bleeds for you, perhaps we should all have a whip round to pay your taxes if thats of any help to you? hahaha
Pa is a Doucher. He owns part of FTP and got his money out one way or another..
I dont believe 1 word he says
YOu all should buy your FULL GUILT POKER t-shirt at fullguiltpoker.com show some support for those of us that LOST our money!
Everyone seemed to think these poker sites were secure with their money. They had no security unlike banks that insure you upto a certain amount of money. So, keeping all of your roll on FT was sickening as we all knew these sites were operating outside of the law.. so basically you stood to loose your money. Im aware that many pros did in fact keep a certain amount of buyins online and made regular withdrawals.
I kept around 5 buyins for the level I played at as I never trusted FT and I do the same with PS now. Why risk more? I dont care what idiots like MORTAR is saying about how hard it is to cash out, hes talking rubbish. Of course their are no prizes for the ones who got their money out, but this could have been avoided if people never treated FT as some kind of bank/investment.
jason is right about the we trusted them when we signed up and the "We play on Full Tilt" Remember comment. The pros are getting paid and if they put their names behind a site to lure other players, they should only put their name on the line if they are certain the site is legit, otherwise GTFO the site. Which brings me to this: all of the pros are saying they didn't know. Well, then I guess they were dumb or greedy enough to put their names behind something without making sure everyone's money was safe and the site was legit or we were dumb enough to trust them. I for one would make certain that there is a real RNG operating (which btw there isn't, it's from a preselected set of cards that are pseudo random). I remember when Daniel N. signed up with PS, and he played one of his first Sunday Millions and there was a hand that had 3 of the top 5 pairs in it as hole cards and he commented "this has been happening way more than it should"...well if he has suspicions, why didn't he investigate?!
Come on Patrick ... don't you get it? Gimme my money back. The nerve of people like you, still going after those lump sum payouts, that come out of our FTP accounts.
We paid your way, you jerk, you should now be lumped together with the other cheats. You're no better than Lederer and the others, as you want more of our money, and are stupid enough to cry about it, in public. SHAME ON YOU