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Australia Part 1: Welcome to Melbourne
Created By: Matt Stout Posted in: Matt Stout's Allinat420 Blog, Tournament Trail
I just got home from Melbourne where the Crown Casino hosted the 2008 Aussie Millions.
If you ever have the chance to go to Australia, especially for this event, I highly recommend it.
Australia is a great place to vacation and the Crown does a great job of running the tournament. Not coincidentally, the tournament continues to grow each year.
The Aussie Millions main event, with an AUD $10,500 buy-in (approximately USD $9,200), attracted 780 entrants this year.
We had $20,000 starting stacks at 50/100, and levels were 90 minutes long with a pretty good escalation structure. They spread the field across three starting days to accommodate the number of entrants.
I arrived at my table on the second Day 1 feeling great. Although the Crown spreads several preliminary tournaments, I was enjoying the vacation so much I had decided to spend the week before the main event relaxing and played almost no poker at all. Ironically, this can sometimes be the best way to prepare for a tournament.

I had a favorable table draw, as there was only one familiar face at my table. It was Yevgeniy Timoshenko (aka Jovial Gent/atimos), an exceptionally good online player whom I also happen to be friends with. Although he would certainly make my job tougher, the rest of the table seemed to be comprised of relatively weak locals and European online qualifiers.
My tournament didn't get off to quite the start I had envisioned, though. I picked up AA in the first level and went heads-up to a K-K-8 flop... against an opponent who held A-Ko. I lost a few thousand chips there, and my stack hovered around $12k-$16k until late in Level 4 when the following hand occurred.
Eight-handed, with the blinds at $150/$300 and a $25 ante, I opened for $800 in early position with 8♦ 9♦. Yevgeniy asked for a count of my stack, which was approximately $12k after the raise, which he had covered by about $10k.
He elected to flat-call me from the button. The big blind defended, also with a larger stack than me, and we saw an 8♥ 4♣ 3♦ flop three ways.
With $2,750 in the pot, I decided to bet $2,000 after the BB checked to me. Once again, Yevgeniy just called my bet, and the big blind folded. At this point, I believe his most likely holding is an overpair to the board.
With this information, I'm ready to give up on the hand on the turn if I don't improve. The 2♦ falls on the turn, giving me a flush draw and creating straight possibilities. I check to Yevgeniy, with the hope of getting a free card and with the possible intention of check-raising or even check-folding, depending on his bet size.

He bets $2,800 into a pot of $6,750. Assuming all of my outs (eights, nines and diamonds) are live, I knew I was about 32% to make the best hand. I was getting 3.4-1 to make the call, and was about a 2-1 underdog to make the best hand (again, assuming all of my outs are live).
So how did it turn out?
In the second part of this blog, I'll explore all three options I now have in this hand. I'd also like to hear what you, the reader, would do in this situation, so feel free to comment below.
I'll then, of course, post the conclusion.
-- Matt Stout
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Comments
12Yevgeniy Timoshenko
2008-02-02I didn't realize until you put it up that I actually gave you the option of calling, which with the cards up actually would've been quite effective. I still don't know what the right answer is between bet/calling, or check/raising in your spot if you decide to rule out folding, which is probably the best play. If you decide not to fold, I think it's between bet/calling, and check/shoving, as I think I have the easiest call if you just jam 10K into a 6750 pot on turn, as it almost completely narrows your range to combo draws and hands weaker than mine. It was a really unusual and awkward spot for both of us.
FWIW, here was my thinking behind the hand, as I'm not thrilled with how I played it: preflop, your stack was really awkward for me to raise, as it was too deep to raise call and raise folding with Js is really gross. On the flop your bet seemed big, like you definitely connected with the flop. I decided to rule out all air and overcard and draw possibilitites, and put your likely range at anything from an 8, to 99-AA. At this point I considered making a bluffy raise to like 4500 and calling a shove but I decided that might fold out all worse hands than me and only get you to put it in when you beat me. Since theres not too much improvement for your range, I thought you either have me or you dont, and I decided to call and see the turn and how you react to it. You were certainly capable of check shoving the turn with a hand better than mine, but after the 2d peeled, I decided I would just bet/call turn small perhaps making it look like you have fold equity and my hand might not be so strong and having you shove all of your range (pretty optimistic thinking).
Playing one table of live poker sometimes makes you over-think things. Online in the heat of the moment I probably 3bet and reevaluate. The tilt factor online is so much greater I think you can even get away with raise/calling in a spot like that since your villain's range is not set in stone and occasionally they'll be getting out of line because they're bored/don't care, etc. Its marginal, but it's a spot I often take vs aggressive players, especially since even if I'm out of that one, there's 6+ other games that I still have to focus on. Ultimately, I'm not thrilled with the way I played my hand, and if I could do it over again I probably would've just three-bet pre and folded to a shove. Sure, AK will be the most common combination of your range, but I don't think you will hardly ever get out of line there (rightfully so), and will probably 4bet me with a range of AK+, QQ+. Congrats on your finish in the Aussie Millions - I only wish you went deeper so I could've had a drunken final table sweat.
Jeff Sopko
2008-02-01Based on how he played the hand, calling the bet here seems to be the best play. Allowing you to get out of the way if you miss and he does have a set, but possibly allowing you to extract a big pot out of him if you improve on the river. The way the guy played the hand could lead to any number of possibilities. The flat call on the flop leads me to believe he has may have either a set, overpair or a straight draw (which could have converted on the turn). Id certainly call here and see the river though, that much I am confident in.
Kim
2008-01-30Matt,
Great to read your first post. Looking forward to more of these!
I think you have to smooth call here. A couple possibilities:
It is entirely possible that he was holding AK, AQ and was conservative preflop since he knows the type of player that you are. When you bet out the flop, he could easily be floating you -- thinking that you might just have missed. When you check the turn, he thinks his hand is good and senses some weakness on your part and tries to simply steal the pot.
Or, yes, he might have hit his set or has an overpair. In that case, you do have redraw outs and you are pretty much obligated to call with the money in the pot and the potential money that can be won.
Pokerface
2008-01-30Hope we'll be getting the conculsion soon, I want to see how it all panned out
Tulaneholdem
2008-01-28Just call...he may have hit a set...think he would have raised you on the flop with an overpair...just call and really hope to hit the flush.
Lee
2008-01-28Here's another option....... Just a thought.
I would think that he was on 55 66 or 77 here. Reason being he asked for the count-down to see if he could justify putting you all-in here without putting to much of his stack at risk. Knowing that you had half of what he had he opted to flat-call to see what a flop would do.
Being the pre-flop raiser he put you on a pair or 2 big cards and figured you would continue bet the flop regardless, if checked to you. Now since he has pair and there is only one over to him, he figures to be good on the flop unless you of course have the over pair.... his reason to call the flop bet. When you check the turn, he thinks he's confirmed the 2 overcard theory and comes out with a probe bet to see if he is correct. He thinks if you just had 2 overs it's a lay-down or if you have the over-pair a re-raise all-in in which case he has not pot-committed himself.
I think a flat call here is best putting him on those hands. If you make your flush, 2 pair or trips you can value bet or if you miss you can consider checking again in hopes he checks thinking your on a trap. If he comes out firing again you have a decision but you may be able to get away from it with chips to play at small blinds or risk it on all on a 'go big or go home' call.
Interesting to see how it played out.
Willcutyou
2008-01-28Matt pwns all, we can all just admit that. Obv. Matt wins the hand, smokes a victory blunt, and goes on to pwn noobs! Woot, 420 Pwns my soul - Will
Trisha Takanawah
2008-01-27I take you home. I make you fishball soup.
PokerBoy
2008-01-26Lets assume that your opponent indeed has an overpair to the board. If you check on the turn then they guy will likely think that a. you were bluffing on the flop and now may or might not have a draw and/or overcards but either way you hope to see the river for free. b. you have a monster (set or the A-5 for a wheel) and plan to check raise c. top pair and don't really know what to do in case he bets.
I say either check and if he bets fold/call depending on your feel combined with size of bet.
or
Bet small so that you are not committed but might still get good odds to call in case he makes a small raise. If he makes a big raise you probably should fold (but again I am not there at the table with all the information that you have!)
Daniel Skolovy
2008-01-25I think I just would have bet called this turn. Bet if he elects to raise its a must call. Once the turn brings the diamond a check fold is out of the question. And check/calling leaves nothing in your stack. Also checkraising could also work but he will obviously call once he bets the turn. I think the best two options are B/C and C/R
Pokerface
2008-01-25sounds to me like you were both holding 8s. Had you checked at open, chances are he would have raised in your place, but he felt that your raise was a fair pot for an 8 pair, and they weren't worth more than that at the time. When the 2 came in and you checked, he knew you were only holding a pair, and it's possible at that stage he had two pair, 8s / 2s.
FlashJ
2008-01-25If you go over the top all in you might get a bit of fold equity out of it but chip count request makes me suspicious, as you said... over pair? Tough spot. You are hurtin if you call and miss, I think i would go over top and push all in in an attempt to get a fold or hit your money card... you have a lot of outs.
killin me here - how did it turn out!? what did you do!?
Awesome article btw!
FlashJ